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@DavidMason is there something you’re not telling me? I’m hoping I don’t have to do a GS session 🤣

@ShauNuff - that looks like Luke, but also looks a lot older than Luke back then.

@Martyaaron

however my understanding is that I need a membership that includes liability insurance to attend group rides?

This always causes confusion - there are really three kinds of insurance that we all need to worry about:

• Personal insurance - coverage for you, your bike and your accessories against accidents/theft (something like YellowJersey, Laka etc). Discounts and reccomendation codes can be found in the forum somewhere.

• Personal liability insurance - are you covered if you cause an accident that impacts a member of the public - eg: you cause a car to smash into someone's house. Many of the insurance firms above provide this, but it is included in BC for Race Gold, Race Silver, Ride and Commute Members

• Club liability insurance - something the club has in order to protect itself against being sued because of things the members do on official club events, or because of things that occur during our races/special events. EG: someone crashes during the Great Escape and sues the club because they think we did not sign post things correctly.

The club has traditionally never asked anyone to have personal accident/theft or public liability insurance. Reading between @ChrisGold words, the committee has not discussed this recently.

My personal view is that anyone with a bike worth more than £500 should insure it (£500 being the amount normally catered for under household insurance), but that's an individual's choice. If you are a BC member, chances are you have liability insurance, and the rest is up to the club.

Hope that clarifies things a little (or at least hasn't confused you more!!!)

Hi +Becca_o - the list above is people who have confirmed they are attending - if you clicked attending above and have the email, then add your name to the list as a confirmed attendee.

@Jonathan - as david mentioned, keep an eye on the Jan 22nd event as you may have a last minute entry chance.

If you comment there you will receive notifications of any comments

As long as the diet works for you, is sensible and aligned with your principle there is not better diets than others as far as I'm concerned.

This 100% - getting bogged down in minutiae can put people off.

To me there are a few critical things:

1. Decide why you are changing your eating habits - are you looking to remove significant fat amounts (10kg), make significant performance gains or simply want to be a bit healthier.
   
2. Finding a lifestyle choice that works rather than a 12 week "diet programme". What I like about the programme I adhere to is it's lasted two years now. Sure I'm not as strict as when I first started it, but my goals have changed (see 1)
   
3. Don't fixate on a number - 87kg of muscle weighs the same as 87kg of fat. I always liked Racing Weight's principle of your ideal weight is the weight you achieve your goals at. Tie in your goals with key results, not your key results with your goals.
   
   

Caveat: still not a nutritionist nor a doctor

@SteveHunt49 - sorry missed this totally.

I do what I would call "semi Keto". I'm not convinced on the benefits of Keto for endurance sports, as the body needs carbs at points. What I do is limit my carb intake to the middle of the day on normal days, and about an 1.5 hrs before an intense effort (eg: VO2 max sessions on the turbo).

For me, there is little point putting complex carbs in after around 2pm. Unless you are doing a massive session, you won't burn through them in everyday life, and overnight your body will turn them into fat. So any work you did that morning to burn the fat is negated. I also don't see the point in a breakfast of complex carbs if you're only doing a aerobic exercise session in the am (commute, light weights etc).

I've been doing this two years now, and have found it a simple way of fuelling for rides and keeping my weight down.

Caveat: this works for me, and I'm not a doctor/nutritionist

For example, my daily routine might be:

Wake
Weights or turbo session
Breakfast - usually low fat yogurt with berries (black, blue, rasp, straw) and mango, coffee and yakult
Mid morning snack of fruit or nuts (if I have a banana it will be around now)
Lunch - lean meats, veg, grains, potatoes, maybe bread or pasta. Usually somewhere around 40g of complex carbs (fist full).
Post lunch snack - popcorn or pop chips or similar
afternoon snack - fruit or nuts
Dinner - lean meat/salad/veg - no complex carbs
Evening snack - nuts, seeds, maybe a little dark (75%+) chocolate

This is accompanied by 12-15k steps/day, loads of water and copious green tea

Adjustments
Zwift race days - if a race is circa 7:30 I will have a bowl of porridge around 5:30 with honey and berries. I will have a banana halfway through the race.

Club ride fuel: I will work on high fat nuts and seeds - macadamias are little balls of energy and on a club ride you'll burn straight through them.

Sportive fuel: Start out on slow burning carbs (peanut butter sarnies etc) and migrate to gels/gummies for that last bit of energy. Mixture of snacks like nuts and maybe a bar or two for the lull points.

@Tori_Walker did you get at takers?

I’m looking to transfer my one day ticket as I can no longer make it. Anyone want it?

Thanks to all who made it tonight. Really great meeting you all and some really good riding.

Looking forward to seeing you out on the road and at our (if for now virtual) socials.

My intent was to pdf and email this thread to them - removing the discussions about whether we should pdf and email the thread to them or put it in the public area ;-)

We can do both I think

The family have told me that they wish any donations to go to The Sickle Cell Society. The club will be donating £100.

I like the idea of doing the Brighton run in his name, and potentially doing a whip round. I’ll post charity details when the family get back to me.

If there is any chance find out about what funeral arrangements are, I would like to pay my respects.

+MarkV - @SallyB and I are in contact with the family, if we hear anything we will post it here (assuming they are ok with members turning up).

Leroy, hope the roads in heaven are smooth as silk for you. Farewell for now... and happy trails!

Lovely words, thank you.

It is with a heavy heart that I relay the news of the passing of popular club member Leroy Hodge. Leroy was a keen cyclist and regular ICC volunteer. We will pass on more information when we receive it from the family.

This week's newsletter contains a pictorial tribute to Leroy, an integral part of this club.

The club will be making a donation to a charity of his family's choosing in his name.

The family have specifically asked us if we have any photographs of him cycling. If you do have any photographs or memories of Leroy you would like to share with us please email us at [email protected] and we will send anything we receive on to the family.

A very sad day for all of us at ICC and our thoughts are with his family at this tough time.

Hi +HayleyLJD - access to the members only parts of the forum is automatically done after confirmation of membership. Have you had confirmation yet? If so, we can manually override.

HTH

Jonny.

Hi both - you should have access. Could you try logging out and logging in again please?

Also - all standard routes can be found in the Roadbook section of the form

On thing to be aware of - Sunday is our 200km Reliability Ride into Essex, so the numbers in the park may be slightly lower than usual. If you feel up to riding that distance, it's a fun day out.

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/events/details/170191/The-Great-Escape

Hi +Gilles - I have manually added you while Aidan sorts out the automatic version.

Please let me know if you can now see the whole forum

Best,

Jonny

Hi +JacobE

Good to have you onboard.

+aidan processes the memberships in batches a couple of times a week. You should receive a confirmation and further details on the club shortly.

See you on the road,

best,

Jonny

Hello +DannyKudos

It's good to see someone else from the far NW interested in joining the club. We already have a number of members from Edgware and Mill Hill as well as quite a few current and ex-Gregarios as members of the club, so you would be in good company.

Unfortunately we are currently only able to offer Sunday rides as the trial rides for the club. Of course if you do join you would be most welcome on the mid-week rides. Could you perhaps do one trial ride on the weekend to see?

Our midweek rides do indeed split in the various pace groups.

I look forward to seeing you on the road shortly.

Best,

Jonny

Hi you're welcome to try any group depending on your ability. The rules are the same - no drop rides, regrouping at the top of hills.

The requirement to complete one of our sessions applies to all prospective members, however they can be one of your trial rides with the club.

Great!

Hi +Alexkinna

This is because your BC email is an aol one and you use a gmail account for the forum. An account will have been created with your aol one, so you have three options:

1. if you don't care about your chat history, simply use the aol account
   
2. if you want the chat history, we can merge across to the aol account
   
3. if you don't want to use the aol account, please update british cycling's database (and I can update the mailing list).
   
   

I hope that helps

Jonny

Hi Mark,

Welcome to the club. To add to what Colin has said, all of our routes are available in the Roadbook section of the forum. You can find popular routes as well as anything we do as a weekly ride.

If you have a route you’d love to share, do let +SeanW know and he can put it out in the newsletter.

Look forward to seeing you on the road sometime.

Best

Jonny