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@Jack_S I'm thinking 7.30 start just north of the Waterworks on the A104 if that works for you. Hatfield Broad Oak and back is about 70k.
Thanks. Looks like I'll have to pull out as I am getting grief from the better half about a bbq we're meant to attend between 11.00 and 14.00. Apparently turning up in my club attire simply isn't acceptable so may have to go it alone and start earlier from home. Bugger.